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 Post subject: Re: seeking home growers
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:46 pm 
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Hi --

The plot thickens! My Fox News local interview went national tonight just before 7PM Central on Fox News national. It was replayed on the Julie Banderas show in entirety.

If you haven't seen it yet, you can find it here --

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/consum ... _HomeGrown

I tell the Tobacco Taxman UP YOURS on national TV!

Ha!

Bob


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 Post subject: Re: seeking home growers
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:46 pm 
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Bob..for God's sake...with all of your tobacco..get you a better cigarette making machine! :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: seeking home growers
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:49 pm 
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or not!


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 Post subject: Re: seeking home growers
PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:50 am 
DAM, Bob you need to do some weeding. :D :lol: and that rolling machine all that money you make cant you afford a auto matic one :wink:...Did you notice they cut out lot of what you said.


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 Post subject: Re: seeking home growers
PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:03 am 
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bob_kemp wrote:
Hi --

The plot thickens! My Fox News local interview went national tonight just before 7PM Central on Fox News national. It was replayed on the Julie Banderas show in entirety.

If you haven't seen it yet, you can find it here --

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/consum ... _HomeGrown

I tell the Tobacco Taxman UP YOURS on national TV!

Ha!

Bob


I believe I have said it before but...good job!


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 Post subject: Re: seeking home growers
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:35 pm 
YOU know I'll try this if this repoter will call me, foot why not.cant do no worse than any one else right.


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 Post subject: Re: seeking home growers
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:11 pm 
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If it moves tax it! If it doesn't move, subsidize it then tax it!

Get the picture!


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 Post subject: Re: seeking home growers
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:17 pm 
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Way to go Bob!!

I wish I could up yours to them on everything!!!!

Good interview!


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 Post subject: Re: seeking home growers
PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:45 pm 
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Super! More people need to tell our nanny state to stick it!
Uncle Art


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 Post subject: Re: seeking home growers
PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:14 pm 
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Hi --

I just re-read many of my arguments against publicizing growing tobacco at home and so far, I have seen no signs that the government has noticed our little home industry - yet.

Despite this article on AP and the Fox News interview I did that went national, searching the FDA website shows no signs they are focusing on home growers - yet.

I wonder how this is going to go down? I'm convinced that we only have a few years left to enjoy tobacco before complete prohibition takes hold. Neither of the major political parties have voted once to protect us from this government abuse. On the contrary, both parties regularly have increased the taxes on tobacco and now baned all flavorings except menthol, which the FDA is just about to ban without bothering to let Congress make a law about it this time. I've sent letters complaining about the encroachment of my rights by abusive tobacco taxation and mandantory smoking bans in private businesses to all my reps, local, state and federal, with only form letter responses - "Thank you for your interest in our candidate and we are constantly reviewing our position" - gobblety gook crud.

The FDA even hired a man as Tobacco Center Director who says he's dedicated to stopping us from enjoying tobacco. The FDA website now has loads of statistics on how much smoking costs America in healthcare costs, which as we now know are nationally owned, managed and mandantory for everyone.

So how's it going to go down? Will the FDA issue a ruling that tobacco is a medicine that must be prescribed, the illness being nicotine addiction? That sounds more and more likely to me at this point.

Bob


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 Post subject: Re: seeking home growers
PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:08 pm 
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Another Czar?
See what we are up against? When will we really get involved and do something about this? We never will rise up because we are so afraid and so scared to make any noise. We deserve what we get.


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 Post subject: Re: seeking home growers
PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:16 am 
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bob_kemp wrote:
Hi --

I just re-read many of my arguments against publicizing growing tobacco at home and so far, I have seen no signs that the government has noticed our little home industry - yet.

Despite this article on AP and the Fox News interview I did that went national, searching the FDA website shows no signs they are focusing on home growers - yet.


Currently, we're a small group not worthy of their attention. But we're growing fast and might get big enough to cause concern, and no efforts to keep our little hobby a secret are going to work. We just have to be prepared to fight for our freedom when the time comes.

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I wonder how this is going to go down? I'm convinced that we only have a few years left to enjoy tobacco before complete prohibition takes hold. Neither of the major political parties have voted once to protect us from this government abuse. On the contrary, both parties regularly have increased the taxes on tobacco and now baned all flavorings except menthol, which the FDA is just about to ban without bothering to let Congress make a law about it this time. I've sent letters complaining about the encroachment of my rights by abusive tobacco taxation and mandantory smoking bans in private businesses to all my reps, local, state and federal, with only form letter responses - "Thank you for your interest in our candidate and we are constantly reviewing our position" - gobblety gook crud.


Keep sending those letters. Your Republican Congress Critter, Ralph Hall, voted against SCHIP, but voted for PACT and FDA regulation. Keep working on him until he becomes an American.

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The FDA even hired a man as Tobacco Center Director who says he's dedicated to stopping us from enjoying tobacco. The FDA website now has loads of statistics on how much smoking costs America in healthcare costs, which as we now know are nationally owned, managed and mandantory for everyone.


The guy you're talking about is small potatos. He has no power, he just does what he's told by those who pull his strings. The Tobacco Products Scientific Advisory Committee is the one to worry about because it includes several prohibitionists with voting power. Most dangerous is the Chair of the Committee, Dr. Jonathon Samet, who has been an epidemiology tobacco researcher for around 30 years. Of all the crooks in tobacco research, he does the best job at portraying himself as someone credible. That's why when government wants someone to do an important report or head a committee on tobacco, the Anti-Tobacco leadership gives them Samet. However respectable Samet may appear, he's just as much of a liar and a fraud as the rest of them. He's just better at it than the boobs who comprise their leadership.

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So how's it going to go down? Will the FDA issue a ruling that tobacco is a medicine that must be prescribed, the illness being nicotine addiction? That sounds more and more likely to me at this point.

Bob


If Anti-Tobacco is successful at controling the FDA, any medicine for nic addiction will not be tobacco. The pharmaceuticals who sell patches and drugs like Chantix won't permit it and they provide most of the funding for Anti-Tobacco. There's no reason for them to change the tactics that has worked for them so far...."For the kids" (like in Mein Kampf) or "smokers cost to society" (easily proven to be nonexistent) or their main weapon, "secondhand smoke" which they use for bans. I believe they intend to go for a national smoking ban next year if the political climate is favorable. Once smoking is banned just about everywhere, they can say the only way to keep us from smoking in our homes around our kids is to ban it outright.

One problem they face with that is government's reluctance to give up all the zillions they collect in tobacco taxes, but that can be overcome and they have the power and money to do it.

Disclaimer: This is NOT my prediction of the future. This is only a prediction of what will happen if we stand by and let the Antis steamroll over us instead of fighting them.


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 Post subject: Re: seeking home growers
PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:35 am 
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baccerman wrote:
Another Czar?
See what we are up against? When will we really get involved and do something about this? We never will rise up because we are so afraid and so scared to make any noise. We deserve what we get.


It's hard to rally smokers because of the guilt trip the Antis have so skillfully placed on them over the years. That doesn't mean we can't rally smokers, we can but we have to remove the guilt trip first.

For that matter, it's never been all that easy to rally any group. Our Founding Fathers had an even more difficult time in rallying the Colonists because they had to invent a whole new concept called Americanism before they could get enough support for the TOBACCO FUNDED American Revolution.


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 Post subject: Re: seeking home growers
PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:13 pm 
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Jim, I want to thank you for the statements you made. You have really given me food for thought. It is always refreshing to have a different perspective. I, myself get frustrated and lash out when I should give more thought to our plight.
I do agree with you that we need to first do something about the 'Guilt' thing for us smokers. How do we attack that? I don't know but there is a way but it takes money to do anything and confront change.
Thanks for your post.


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 Post subject: Re: seeking home growers
PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:46 pm 
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Hi --

I agree with you, Jim. Tobacco users have now been assaulted with our own tax money by government attempts to change the opinion of the nation against tobacco - and it's been successful. It's like they point a gun at us, take our money, then use it to buy the bullets they shoot at us. There's something basically wrong with a government which is allowed to spend the people's treasury attacking the people's freedom.

When government uses scientific mass-opinion engineering against the people to change the people's opinions, how can people call themselves free? Government should be banned from doing anything that even appears to be for the purpose of creating/altering public opinion. Otherwise, we aren't telling government what to do, then they are telling us what to think.

Bob


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